we do well to bear in mind that among the drugs, serums, vaccines, surgical operations, etc., of the medical profession, there is nothing of value save an occasional surgical proceedure.
their so-called "science" grew out of egyptian black magic and has not lost its demonological character.... we shall be in a sad plight when we place the welfare of the race in their hands.
[1] 1. the golden age, aug. 5, 1931, p. 727.. the journal of the a. m. a. is the vilest sheet that passes the united states mail.... nothing new and useful in theraputics escapes its unqualified condemnation.
Another glaring sign that they're not inspired or led by the lord, wouldn't have God and Jesus been able to see the practical value of something like a vaccine?
Nope, instead they passed on those and divinely inspired the Gloden Age writers to assimilate science with black magic. And I thought I had heard it all...
"you have no idea!
yes, people hate jws!".
this statement was made to me by a jw who had just left a meeting to present the notion that they were the persecuted christians.
Imagine being one of those guys behind a cage scared and afraid proving "loyal" to Jehovah only to discover on your exodus that it was all for nothing.
Now, that would suck.
these are things that were said or insinuated, i start with the first 15.
enjoy!!.
1. working for a corporation in the city makes you fall out of the truth.. 2. if you become inactive or leave jehovah you will make your whole family sad and ruin everything.. 3. all worldly people cheat.. 4. all worldly people curse.. 5.
The one thing I learned is that my mother is now convinced I'm David Barker.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzo4ozbyixe.
i've commented on the video saying that this guy was right not to be impatient or rude to the witnesses who called, even though it sounds like he had every reason to be.. as we all know, any level of intimidation or "persecution" from outsiders only makes jws retreat deeper into their indoctrination.. .
cedars.
That's awesome that he's calm and collected, I wish in my time as a witness I had called on more people like him- would've made the whole charade a lot easier. Hah on the dumb nipple joke.
there are many silly doctines and viewpoints.. one of the strangest ones is the blood doctrine.. why anyone could logically accept this belief is beyond reason..
I think one of the hardest things to fathom is that anyone who's not a witness should not be considered a friend. Some of the best people I've known in life were never inside yet I was supposed to avoid them for fear of contamination.
Funny how the good ones are bad and ... well you know how that goes.
i'm going to share with you all a reply i got from a witnesses after i sent an article from nbc news regarding the conti sex abuse case.
in many ways i think it's quite telling and revealing into the mind of a dubbie.
this is the actuall reply .
When I spoke with my family about the case and presented the news article I read about it my mother instantly said that it was some apostate trying to get even with the organization. I asked, "how could that be?" "Don't we trust the news for our weather and current events everyday? But the second they present some facts about the WT they're lying-God-haters?" Really sucks but that's the way the cookie crumbles.
when you pray do you still use the name jehovah.
i still do.
I have ceased praying but I always refer to God as Jehovah, that definitely stuck.
you know i'm just tired about all the bull shit that goes on.
i'm sick of trying to please others.
i loath pissing people off on a saturday morning.
Hi joe, thanks for posting. My only recommendation would be to do something about it. Please do not allow yourself to be a victim but instead a creator who can see a problem and strum up a solution. Here's to not being tired but invigorated with life and freedom. All the best,
hey people,.
as for myself, after extensive study i have concluded that it's not possible for me to trust the bible and so i am not active anymore.
however, let me please add something to the discussions here:.
Welcome Liz, I cannot speak to the tune of defending everything said or commented on this thread or even forum but I will add my two cents to some things.
The fact of the matter is that many of us maybe even you have felt deceived by the JW's- now does that mean that every Witness is a liar, thief, or deceptive on purpose? Obviously not, you're right in that many are well intentioned and sincerely believe that they are correct.
What my gripe is with the organization is that instead of letting us know there have been mistakes or even huge errors we find out about them doing research on the internet. It's devastating to find out about something horrible through a third-party when we supposedly have access to loving bros and sisters that have the info. And especially when we're taught that God guides us, but can God make mistakes?
The money- as I do not agree with everything claimed about the money take a look at the info available about the Tacoma convention center and parking, that might give a small inkling as to why so many people on these threads talk about them as "money hungry."
Please if you have not already done so- research the Candace Conti case, 1975, UN NGO, and even try Mexico/Malawi. I know that when I looked at the info from the publications themselves I was shattered to see how much faith I'd placed in men. I appreciate your viewpoint and look forward to reading more of your posts.
UN info:
rechap.34p.248par.9AnAwesomeMysterySolved
The UN is actually a blasphemous counterfeit of God’s Messianic Kingdom by his Prince of Peace, Jesus Christ—to whose princely rule there will be no end. (Isaiah 9:6, 7) Even if the UN were to patch up some temporary peace, wars would soon erupt again. This is in the nature of sinful men. “Their names have not been written upon the scroll of life from the founding of the world.”
http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/united-nations-association.php
Sex abuse:
“Never lay your hands hastily upon any man; neither be a sharer in the sins of others.” (1 Timothy 5:22) For the protection of our children, a man known to have been a child molester does not qualify for a responsible position in the congregation. Moreover, he cannot be a pioneer or serve in any other special, full-time service.—Compare the principle at Exodus 21:28, 29.
In your research you'll see how many "responsible" men have been/are molesters.
http://www.silentlambs.org/education/multimedia.cfm
I'll leave the rest for you to find and compare so you can understand why some of us are angry and in that anger we express ouselves negatively against the WT and JW's.
Best wishes,
when i was a kid, i researched the origins of the religion and realized that the witnesses were an offshoot of adventism.....we're you surprised to learn something about the witnesses that you didn't realize?.
UN ngo, failed prophecies, similarities to pharisees, and sex-abuse.
